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Makrita
real estate investor

 

Privacy w/Addresses

Monday, September 18 2006 03:36 PM

 

Just finished your first seminar on Land Trusts and am mulling thru the issue of privacy on my home address.  
- Do I use a PO Box at the post office or do you recommend those 'Mail Box Etc' type places?
- I notice both of these type of places request ID and your home address.  Do you give this out to them to open up the mail box?
- Do you notify ALL of your creditors, utilities, etc. of this address change and totally 'drop out' of the home address radar?

This is such new thinking for me, forgive me if I sound 'dumbfounded'!!

REPLY

Jim Hughes
Investor

 

Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Monday, September 18 2006 04:43 PM

 

Makrita,

Either PO BOX or MAIL BOX ETC are ok.

Use the physical address of the mail box for the home address for the post office or physical address of the post office for the mail box etc. Hope that is not confusing but it will work.  Remember dont fight the people who request info just give them an address that satisfys their request so they can complete the forms.

Absolutely! Notify all your creditors, utilities, etc to use your PO BOX for all billing and records.  It will work fine. These acts will help you become less conspicuos with the public. Drop out and not be noticeable is the goal.

Dont worry about being new to this privacy issue, just take a day at a time and keep practicing anonymity.

Thanks again for attending our seminar. We enjoyed having you there.

Jim Hughes

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Makrita
real estate investor

 

Privacy w/Addresses

Monday, September 18 2006 06:55 PM

 

So they'll really let me use the physical address of the post office as my home address without question???

REPLY

Jim Hughes
Investor

 

Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Monday, September 18 2006 09:41 PM

 

Mail Box Etc will not know the difference.  The post office will not know the street address of you mail box etc address.  thus yes if dont resist and just give them the addresses stated.

There will be times when you have to give your home address but the important thing to remember is that 99% of the time you dont have to.  You are just used to giving it when requested.

Try it !   You will start getting comfortable after several times.

Jim Hughes

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joem487

 

Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Tuesday, September 19 2006 12:26 AM

 

Another step you can take is your phone listing. If you have a listed phone number and don't want to unlist it. You can
change the listing to omit the street address. So I have a number
that 411 lists as John smith  anytown il.

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KaosProperties

 

Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Thursday, September 21 2006 04:17 PM

 

I've learned that from the Hughes brothers as well as Asset Protection people....

My question is towards personal aspects. For example, we have small children and they've started pre-school. It'd be pretty hard to remain private.

My concern is that eventually the personal privacy will be found by those you might not want to be found such as phone company/utility co/driver's license/hospital, etc

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Makrita
real estate investor

 

Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Thursday, September 21 2006 05:02 PM

 

I also started to wonder if there are places where it is 'illegal' to put a 'mail box' type address.  For example, on a drivers' license?  Where can we go to learn more about How private one can be?

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Marty Couch
Investor

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Thursday, September 21 2006 05:54 PM

 

Hey Gang,

This is kinda a long post but I found the info on line as far as when the Secretary of State can sell our personal info and to whom. It is pretty scary at best.

Seems like the best thing to do is title a vericle in the name of a living trust. As the trust doesn't have to "live" anywhere as it is not alive, the address could probably be a UPS store or something similar.

Just thought I would pass this on. And now for the legal mumbo jumbo...

State of Illinois
91st General Assembly
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Public Act 91-0716

HB2883 Enrolled                                LRB9107752WHdv

   AN ACT to amend the Illinois  Vehicle  Code  by  changing
Sections 2-123, 6-204, and 16-104a.

   Be  it  enacted  by  the People of the State of Illinois,
represented in the General Assembly:

   Section 5.  The  Illinois  Vehicle  Code  is  amended  by
changing Sections 2-123, 6-204, and 16-104a as follows:

   (625 ILCS 5/2-123) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 2-123)
   Sec. 2-123.  Sale and Distribution of Information.
   (a)  Except  as  otherwise  provided in this Section, the
Secretary may make the driver's license,  vehicle  and  title
registration  lists, in part or in whole, and any statistical
information derived  from  these  lists  available  to  local
governments,   elected  state  officials,  state  educational
institutions, public libraries  and  all  other  governmental
units of the State and Federal Government requesting them for
governmental  purposes.  The Secretary shall require any such
applicant for services to pay for  the  costs  of  furnishing
such  services  and the use of the equipment involved, and in
addition is empowered to establish prices and charges for the
services so furnished and  for  the  use  of  the  electronic
equipment utilized.
   (b)  The Secretary is further empowered to and he may, in
his  discretion,  furnish to any applicant, other than listed
in subsection (a) of this Section, vehicle or driver data  on
a  computer tape, disk, or printout at a fixed fee of $250 in
advance and require in addition a further sufficient  deposit
based  upon  the  Secretary  of State's estimate of the total
cost of the information requested and a  charge  of  $25  per
1,000  units  or  part thereof identified or the actual cost,
whichever is greater. The Secretary is authorized  to  refund
any  difference between the additional deposit and the actual

cost of the request.  This service shall not be in lieu of an
abstract of a driver's record nor of a title or  registration
search.   The  information  sold  pursuant to this subsection
shall be the entire vehicle or  driver  data  list,  or  part
thereof.
   (c)  Secretary  of  State  may  issue registration lists.
The Secretary of State shall compile and  publish,  at  least
annually,  a  list  of all registered vehicles.  Each list of
registered vehicles shall be arranged serially  according  to
the  registration numbers assigned to registered vehicles and
shall  contain  in  addition  the  names  and  addresses   of
registered  owners  and  a  brief description of each vehicle
including the serial or  other  identifying  number  thereof.
Such  compilation may be in such form as in the discretion of
the Secretary  of  State  may  seem  best  for  the  purposes
intended.
   (d)  The  Secretary of State shall furnish no more than 2
current available lists of such registrations to the sheriffs
of all counties and to the chiefs of police of all cities and
villages and towns of 2,000 population and over in this State
at no cost.  Additional copies may be purchased at the fee of
$500 each or at the cost of producing the list as  determined
by the Secretary of State.
   (e)  The  Secretary  of  State shall upon written request
and the payment of  the  fee  of  $500  furnish  the  current
available  list  of  such  motor vehicle registrations to any
person so long as the supply of available registration  lists
shall last.
   (e-1)  Commercial purchasers of driver and vehicle record
databases  shall  enter  into  a  written  agreement with the
Secretary of State that includes disclosure of the commercial
use of the  intended  purchase.   Affected  drivers,  vehicle
owners,  or  registrants  may  request  that their personally
identifiable  information  not   be   used   for   commercial
solicitation purposes.
   (f)  The  Secretary  of  State  shall  make  a  title  or
registration  search  of  the  records  of  his  office and a
written report on the  same  for  any  person,  upon  written
application  of  such  person, accompanied by a fee of $5 for
each registration or title search.  No fee shall  be  charged
for  a title or registration search, or for the certification
thereof requested by a government agency.
   The  Secretary  of  State  shall  certify  a   title   or
registration   record  upon  written  request.  The  fee  for
certification shall be $5 in addition to the fee required for
a title or registration search. Certification shall  be  made
under  the  signature of the Secretary of State  and shall be
authenticated by Seal of the Secretary of State.
   The Secretary of State may notify the  vehicle  owner  or
registrant  of  the  request  for  purchase  of  his title or
registration information as the Secretary deems appropriate.
   The vehicle owner or  registrant  residence  address  and
other personally identifiable information on the record shall
not  be  disclosed.   This  nondisclosure  shall not apply to
requests  made  by  law  enforcement  officials,   government
agencies,   financial   institutions,   attorneys,  insurers,
employers, automobile associated businesses,  other  business
entities  for  purposes  consistent with the Illinois Vehicle
Code, the vehicle owner or registrant, or other  entities  as
the  Secretary  may  exempt  by  rule  and  regulation.  This
information may be withheld from the entities  listed  above,
except   law   enforcement   and   government  agencies  upon
presentation of a valid court order  of  protection  for  the
duration of the order.
   No  information  shall be released to the requestor until
expiration of a 10 day period.  This 10 day period shall  not
apply  to  requests  for  information made by law enforcement
officials,  government  agencies,   financial   institutions,
attorneys,   insurers,   employers,   automobile   associated
businesses,  persons licensed as a private detective or firms
licensed as a private  detective  agency  under  the  Private
Detective,  Private  Alarm, and Private Security Act of 1983,
who  are  employed  by  or  are  acting  on  behalf  of   law
enforcement   officials,   government   agencies,   financial
institutions,   attorneys,  insurers,  employers,  automobile
associated  businesses,  and  other  business  entities   for
purposes  consistent  with  the  Illinois  Vehicle  Code, the
vehicle  owner  or  registrant  or  other  entities  as   the
Secretary may exempt by rule and regulation.
   Any  misrepresentation  made  by  a requestor of title or
vehicle information shall be punishable as a  petty  offense,
except in the case of persons licensed as a private detective
or  firms  licensed as a private detective agency which shall
be subject to disciplinary sanctions under Section 22  or  25
of the Private Detective, Private Alarm, and Private Security
Act of 1983.
   (g) 1.  The  Secretary  of  State  may, upon receipt of a
   written request and a fee of $6, furnish to the person or
   agency so requesting a driver's  record.   Such  document
   may   include  a  record  of:  current  driver's  license
   issuance information,  except  that  the  information  on
   judicial  driving  permits  shall  be  available  only as
   otherwise provided  by  this  Code;  convictions;  orders
   entered  revoking,  suspending  or  cancelling a driver's
   license  or  privilege;   and   notations   of   accident
   involvement.   All  other  information,  unless otherwise
   permitted by this Code, shall remain confidential.
        2.  The Secretary of State may certify  an  abstract
   of  a  driver's  record  upon  written  request therefor.
   Such certification shall be made under the  signature  of
   the  Secretary of State and shall be authenticated by the
   Seal of his office.
        3.  All  requests  for  driving  record  information
   shall be made in a manner prescribed by the Secretary.
        The Secretary  of  State  may  notify  the  affected
   driver of the request for purchase of his driver's record
   as the Secretary deems appropriate.
        The  affected  driver  residence  address  and other
   personally identifiable information on the  record  shall
   not  be disclosed.  This nondisclosure shall not apply to
   requests made by law  enforcement  officials,  government
   agencies,  financial  institutions,  attorneys, insurers,
   employers,  automobile   associated   businesses,   other
   business   entities  for  purposes  consistent  with  the
   Illinois Vehicle Code,  the  affected  driver,  or  other
   entities   as  the  Secretary  may  exempt  by  rule  and
   regulation.  This information may be  withheld  from  the
   entities   listed   above,  except  law  enforcement  and
   government agencies, upon presentation of a  valid  court
   order of protection for the duration of the order.
        No  information  shall  be released to the requester
   until expiration of a 10 day period.  This 10 day  period
   shall  not  apply to requests for information made by law
   enforcement  officials,  government  agencies,  financial
   institutions, attorneys, insurers, employers,  automobile
   associated  businesses,  persons  licensed  as  a private
   detective or firms licensed as a private detective agency
   under the Private Detective, Private Alarm,  and  Private
   Security  Act  of 1983, who are employed by or are acting
   on  behalf  of  law  enforcement  officials,   government
   agencies,  financial  institutions,  attorneys, insurers,
   employers, automobile associated  businesses,  and  other
   business   entities  for  purposes  consistent  with  the
   Illinois Vehicle  Code,  the  affected  driver  or  other
   entities   as  the  Secretary  may  exempt  by  rule  and
   regulation.
        Any misrepresentation made by a requestor of  driver
   information  shall  be  punishable  as  a  petty offense,
   except in the case  of  persons  licensed  as  a  private
   detective or firms licensed as a private detective agency
   which  shall  be  subject to disciplinary sanctions under
   Section 22 or 25 of the Private Detective, Private Alarm,
   and Private Security Act of 1983.
        4.  The Secretary of State may furnish without  fee,
   upon the written request of a law enforcement agency, any
   information  from  a  driver's  record  on  file with the
   Secretary of State when such information is  required  in
   the enforcement of this Code or any other law relating to
   the  operation  of  motor  vehicles, including records of
   dispositions; documented information involving the use of
   a  motor  vehicle;  whether  such  individual   has,   or
   previously  had,  a driver's license; and the address and
   personal  description  as  reflected  on  said   driver's
   record.
        5.  Except  as  otherwise  provided in this Section,
   the  Secretary  of  State  may  furnish,   without   fee,
   information  from  an individual driver's record on file,
   if a written request therefor is submitted by any  public
   transit   system   or  authority,  public  defender,  law
   enforcement agency, a state  or  federal  agency,  or  an
   Illinois  local  intergovernmental  association,  if  the
   request  is  for  the  purpose  of  a background check of
   applicants for employment with the requesting agency,  or
   for the purpose of an official investigation conducted by
   the  agency,  or  to  determine a current address for the
   driver so public funds can be recovered or  paid  to  the
   driver, or for any other lawful purpose.
        The  Secretary may also furnish the courts a copy of
   an abstract of a driver's record, without fee, subsequent
   to an arrest for a  violation  of  Section  11-501  or  a
   similar  provision  of  a local ordinance.  Such abstract
   may   include   records   of   dispositions;   documented
   information involving the  use  of  a  motor  vehicle  as
   contained  in  the  current file; whether such individual
   has, or previously  had,  a  driver's  license;  and  the
   address  and  personal  description  as reflected on said
   driver's record.
        6.  Any certified abstract issued by  the  Secretary
   of  State  or transmitted electronically by the Secretary
   of State pursuant to this  Section,  to  a  court  or  on
   request  of a law enforcement agency, for the record of a
   named person as to the status of  the  person's  driver's
   license  shall  be  prima  facie  evidence  of  the facts
   therein stated and if the name appearing in such abstract
   is the same as that of a person named in  an  information
   or  warrant,  such abstract shall be prima facie evidence
   that the person named in such information or  warrant  is
   the  same person as the person named in such abstract and
   shall be admissible for any prosecution under  this  Code
   and be admitted as proof of any prior conviction or proof
   of  records,  notices,  or  orders recorded on individual
   driving records maintained by the Secretary of State.
        7.  Subject to any  restrictions  contained  in  the
   Juvenile  Court Act of 1987, and upon receipt of a proper
   request and a fee of $6, the  Secretary  of  State  shall
   provide  a driver's record to the affected driver, or the
   affected  driver's  attorney,  upon  verification.   Such
   record shall contain all the information referred  to  in
   paragraph  1  of  this  subsection (g) plus: any recorded
   accident involvement as a  driver;  information  recorded
   pursuant to subsection (e) of Section 6-117 and paragraph
   (4) of subsection (a) of Section 6-204 of this Code.  All
   other  information,  unless  otherwise  permitted by this
   Code, shall remain confidential.
   (h)  The Secretary shall  not  disclose  social  security
numbers  except pursuant to a written request by, or with the
prior written consent  of,  the  individual  except:  (1)  to
officers  and  employees  of the Secretary who have a need to
know the social security  numbers  in  performance  of  their
official  duties,  (2)  to  law  enforcement  officials for a
lawful, civil or criminal law enforcement investigation,  and
if  the head of the law enforcement agency has made a written
request to  the  Secretary  specifying  the  law  enforcement
investigation for which the social security numbers are being
sought,    (3)   to   the   United   States   Department   of
Transportation,  or  any  other  State,   pursuant   to   the
administration   and  enforcement  of  the  Commercial  Motor
Vehicle Safety Act of 1986, (4)  pursuant to the order  of  a
court  of competent jurisdiction, or (5) to the Department of
Public Aid for utilization in the child  support  enforcement
duties  assigned  to  that Department under provisions of the
Public Aid Code after the individual  has  received  advanced
meaningful notification of what redisclosure is sought by the
Secretary   in  accordance  with  the  federal  Privacy  Act;
provided, the redisclosure shall not  be  authorized  by  the
Secretary prior to September 30, 1992.
   (i)  The  Secretary  of  State is empowered to promulgate
rules and regulations to effectuate this Section.
   (j)  Medical statements or medical  reports  received  in
the  Secretary  of  State's Office shall be confidential.  No
confidential information may be open to public inspection  or
the   contents  disclosed  to  anyone,  except  officers  and
employees of the Secretary  who  have  a  need  to  know  the
information  contained  in the medical reports and the Driver
License Medical Advisory Board,  unless  so  directed  by  an
order of a court of competent jurisdiction.
   (k)  All  fees collected under this Section shall be paid
into the Road Fund of the State Treasury, except that  $3  of
the  $6  fee  for  a  driver's  record shall be paid into the
Secretary of State Special Services Fund.
   (l)  The   Secretary   of   State   shall   report    his
recommendations  to  the General Assembly by January 1, 1993,
regarding the  sale  and  dissemination  of  the  information
maintained  by  the Secretary, including the sale of lists of
driver and vehicle records.
   (m)  Notations  of  accident  involvement  that  may   be
disclosed  under  this  Section  shall  not include notations
relating to damage to  a  vehicle  or  other  property  being
transported  by  a  tow truck.  This information shall remain
confidential, provided that nothing in  this  subsection  (m)
shall  limit  disclosure  of  any  notification  of  accident
involvement to any law enforcement agency or official.
   (n)  Requests   made  by  the  news  media  for  driver's
license, vehicle, or title registration  information  may  be
furnished   without   charge  or  at  a  reduced  charge,  as
determined by the Secretary, when the  specific  purpose  for
requesting  the  documents  is  deemed  to  be  in the public
interest.  Waiver or reduction of the fee is  in  the  public
interest if the principal purpose of the request is to access
and disseminate information regarding the health, safety, and
welfare  or the legal rights of the general public and is not
for the principal purpose of gaining a personal or commercial
benefit.
(Source: P.A. 90-144,  eff.  7-23-97;  90-330,  eff.  8-8-97;
90-400,  eff.  8-15-97;  90-655,  eff.  7-30-98;  91-37, eff.
7-1-99; 91-357, eff. 7-29-99.)

   (625 ILCS 5/6-204) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 6-204)
   Sec. 6-204.  When Court to forward License and Reports.
   (a)  For the purpose of providing  to  the  Secretary  of
State  the  records  essential  to  the  performance  of  the
Secretary's  duties  under  this  Code  to  cancel, revoke or
suspend the driver's license and  privilege  to  drive  motor
vehicles  of certain minors adjudicated truant minors in need
of supervision, addicted, or delinquent and of persons  found
guilty  of  the criminal offenses or traffic violations which
this Code recognizes as evidence  relating  to  unfitness  to
safely  operate  motor  vehicles,  the  following  duties are
imposed upon public officials:
        (1) 1.  Whenever any  person  is  convicted  of  any
   offense   for   which   this  Code  makes  mandatory  the
   cancellation or revocation of  the  driver's  license  or
   permit  of  such  person  by  the Secretary of State, the
   judge of the court in which such conviction is had  shall
   require  the  surrender  to the clerk of the court of all
   driver's licenses or permits then held by the  person  so
   convicted,  and  the  clerk of the court shall, within 10
   days thereafter, forward the same, together with a report
   of such conviction, to the Secretary.
        (2) 2.  Whenever any  person  is  convicted  of  any
   offense  under  this  Code  or  similar  offenses under a
   municipal ordinance,  other  than  regulations  governing
   standing,  parking  or weights of vehicles, and excepting
   the following enumerated Sections of this Code:  Sections
   11-1406   (obstruction  to  driver's  view  or  control),
   11-1407 (improper opening of door into traffic),  11-1410
   (coasting   on   downgrade),   11-1411   (following  fire
   apparatus), 11-1419.01 (Motor Fuel Tax I.D. Card), 12-101
   (driving  vehicle  which  is  in  unsafe   condition   or
   improperly   equipped),   12-201(a)  (daytime  lights  on
   motorcycles), 12-202 (clearance, identification and  side
   marker  lamps), 12-204 (lamp or flag on projecting load),
   12-205 (failure to display the safety  lights  required),
   12-401   (restrictions  as  to  tire  equipment),  12-502
   (mirrors), 12-503 (windshields must be  unobstructed  and
   equipped   with   wipers),   12-601  (horns  and  warning
   devices),  12-602  (mufflers,  prevention  of  noise   or
   smoke),  12-603  (seat  safety  belts),  12-702  (certain
   vehicles  to  carry  flares  or  other  warning devices),
   12-703 (vehicles for oiling roads operated on  highways),
   12-710  (splash  guards and replacements), 13-101 (safety
   tests), 15-101 (size, weight and load),  15-102  (width),
   15-103  (height),  15-104  (name  and  address  on second
   division vehicles), 15-107 (length of vehicle),  15-109.1
   (cover or tarpaulin), 15-111 (weights), 15-112 (weights),
   15-301 (weights), 15-316 (weights), 15-318 (weights), and
   also  excepting  the following enumerated Sections of the
   Chicago Municipal Code: Sections 27-245  (following  fire
   apparatus),   27-254  (obstruction  of  traffic),  27-258
   (driving vehicle which is in  unsafe  condition),  27-259
   (coasting  on downgrade), 27-264 (use of horns and signal
   devices), 27-265 (obstruction to driver's view or  driver
   mechanism),   27-267   (dimming  of  headlights),  27-268
   (unattended  motor  vehicle),  27-272  (illegal   funeral
   procession),  27-273  (funeral  procession on boulevard),
   27-275 (driving freighthauling  vehicles  on  boulevard),
   27-276  (stopping  and  standing  of  buses or taxicabs),
   27-277 (cruising of public  passenger  vehicles),  27-305
   (parallel  parking),  27-306  (diagonal  parking), 27-307
   (parking not  to  obstruct  traffic),  27-308  (stopping,
   standing   or   parking   regulated),   27-311   (parking
   regulations),   27-312   (parking   regulations),  27-313
   (parking  regulations),  27-314  (parking   regulations),
   27-315    (parking    regulations),    27-316    (parking
   regulations),   27-317   (parking   regulations),  27-318
   (parking  regulations),  27-319  (parking   regulations),
   27-320    (parking    regulations),    27-321    (parking
   regulations),   27-322   (parking   regulations),  27-324
   (loading and unloading at an angle),  27-333  (wheel  and
   axle  loads),  27-334  (load restrictions in the downtown
   district),  27-335  (load  restrictions  in   residential
   areas),  27-338  (width  of  vehicles), 27-339 (height of
   vehicles),   27-340   (length   of   vehicles),    27-352
   (reflectors   on  trailers),  27-353  (mufflers),  27-354
   (display of plates), 27-355 (display of city vehicle  tax
   sticker),  27-357  (identification  of  vehicles), 27-358
   (projecting of loads), and also excepting  the  following
   enumerated  paragraphs  of Section 2-201 of the Rules and
   Regulations of the Illinois State Toll Highway Authority:
   (l) (driving unsafe vehicle on  tollway),  (m)  (vehicles
   transporting  dangerous cargo not properly indicated), it
   shall be the duty of the clerk of the court in which such
   conviction is had within 10 days thereafter to forward to
   the Secretary of State a report of the conviction and the
   court  may  recommend  the  suspension  of  the  driver's
   license or permit of the person so convicted.
   The reporting requirements of this subsection shall apply
to all violations stated in paragraphs (1) and  (2)  of  this
subsection when the individual has been adjudicated under the
Juvenile  Court  Act or the Juvenile Court Act of 1987.  Such
reporting  requirements  shall  also  apply  to   individuals
adjudicated  under  the  Juvenile  Court  Act or the Juvenile
Court Act of 1987 who have committed a violation  of  Section
11-501  of  this  Code,  or  similar  provision  of  a  local
ordinance,  or  Section  9-3 of the Criminal Code of 1961, as
amended, relating to the offense of  reckless  homicide.  The
reporting requirements of this subsection shall also apply to
a  truant minor in need of supervision, an addicted minor, or
a delinquent minor and whose driver's license  and  privilege
to  drive a motor vehicle has been ordered suspended for such
times as determined by the Court, but only until  he  or  she
attains  18  years of age.  It shall be the duty of the clerk
of the court in which adjudication  is  had  within  10  days
thereafter  to  forward to the Secretary of State a report of
the adjudication and the court order requiring the  Secretary
of  State to suspend the minor's driver's license and driving
privilege for such time as determined by the Court, but  only
until  he  or  she attains the age of 18 years.  All juvenile
court dispositions reported to the Secretary of  State  under
this  provision  shall be processed by the Secretary of State
as if the cases had been adjudicated in traffic  or  criminal
court.  However, information reported relative to the offense
of reckless homicide, or Section 11-501 of this  Code,  or  a
similar  provision  of a local ordinance, shall be privileged
and available only to the Secretary  of  State,  courts,  and
police officers.
        (3)  3.  Whenever  an  order is entered vacating the
   forfeiture of any bail, security or bond given to  secure
   appearance  for  any  offense  under this Code or similar
   offenses under municipal ordinance, it shall be the  duty
   of  the clerk of the court in which such vacation was had
   or the judge of such court if such court  has  no  clerk,
   within  10 days thereafter to forward to the Secretary of
   State a report of the vacation.
        (4)  4.  A  report  of  any  disposition  of   court
   supervision  for  a  violation of Sections 6-303, 11-401,
   11-501 or a  similar  provision  of  a  local  ordinance,
   11-503  and 11-504 shall be forwarded to the Secretary of
   State. A report of any disposition of  court  supervision
   for  a  violation  of  an  offense  defined  as a serious
   traffic violation in this Code or a similar provision  of
   a  local ordinance committed by a person under the age of
   21 years shall be forwarded to the Secretary of State.
        (5) 5.  Reports of conviction and sentencing hearing
   under the Juvenile Court Act of  1987  in  an  electronic
   format  a  computer processible medium shall be forwarded
   to the Secretary of State via the Supreme  Court  in  the
   form  and  format  required by the Illinois Supreme Court
   and  established  by  a  written  agreement  between  the
   Supreme Court and the Secretary  of  State.  In  counties
   with  a  population  over  300,000, instead of forwarding
   reports to the Supreme Court, reports of  conviction  and
   sentencing  hearing  under the Juvenile Court Act of 1987
   in an electronic format a computer processible medium may
   be forwarded to the Secretary of  State  by  the  Circuit
   Court  Clerk  in  a  form  and  format  required  by  the
   Secretary  of  State and established by written agreement
   between the Circuit Court  Clerk  and  the  Secretary  of
   State.   Failure  to forward the reports of conviction or
   sentencing hearing under the Juvenile Court Act  of  1987
   as  required  by this Section shall be deemed an omission
   of duty and it shall be the duty of the  several  State's
   Attorneys to enforce the requirements of this Section.
   (b)  Whenever a restricted driving permit is forwarded to
a  court,  as  a  result  of confiscation by a police officer
pursuant to the authority in Section 6-113(f),  it  shall  be
the  duty  of the clerk, or judge, if the court has no clerk,
to forward such restricted driving permit and a facsimile  of
the   officer's   citation  to  the  Secretary  of  State  as
expeditiously as practicable.
   (c)  For the purposes of this Code, a forfeiture of  bail
or collateral deposited to secure a defendant's appearance in
court when forfeiture has not been vacated, or the failure of
a defendant to appear for trial after depositing his driver's
license  in  lieu  of  other  bail,  shall be equivalent to a
conviction.
   (d)  For the purpose of providing the Secretary of  State
with  records necessary to properly monitor and assess driver
performance and assist the courts in the  proper  disposition
of repeat traffic law offenders, the clerk of the court shall
forward  to  the Secretary of State, either on paper or in an
electronic format, in on a form prescribed by the  Secretary,
records  of  any  disposition  of  court  supervision for any
traffic violation, excluding those listed in paragraph (a)(2)
of this Section, or records of a driver's participation in  a
driver remedial or rehabilitative program which was required,
through  a  court  order or court supervision, in relation to
the driver's arrest for a violation of Section 11-501 of this
Code or a similar provision of a local ordinance.  These Such
reports shall be sent within 10 days after  disposition,  or,
if  the driver is referred to a the driver's referral to such
driver remedial or rehabilitative program, within 10 days  of
the driver's referral to that program. These reports received
by  the  Secretary  of  State, including those required to be
forwarded  under  paragraph  (a)(4),  shall   be   privileged
information,  available  only  (i) to the affected driver and
(ii) for use by  the  courts,  police  officers,  prosecuting
authorities,  and  the  Secretary  of  State.  Such  reports,
including  those  required to be forwarded under subsection 4
of paragraph (a), shall be recorded to the driver's file, but
shall not be released  to  any  outside  source,  except  the
affected  driver,  and  shall  be  used  only  to  assist  in
assessing driver performance and for the purpose of informing
the  courts  that  such  driver  has been previously assigned
court supervision or  referred  to  a  driver's  remedial  or
rehabilitative program.
(Source:  P.A.  90-369,  eff.  1-1-98;  90-590,  eff. 1-1-99;
91-357, eff. 7-29-99.)

   (625 ILCS 5/16-104a) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 16-104a)
   Sec. 16-104a.  Additional penalty for certain violations.
There is added to every fine imposed upon  conviction  of  an
offense  reportable  to  the  Secretary  of  State  under the
provisions of subdivision (a) (2) of Section  6-204  of  this
Act  an  additional  penalty  of $4 for each $40, or fraction
thereof, of  fine  imposed.   Each  such  additional  penalty
received  shall  be  remitted  within  one month to the State
Treasurer to be deposited into the  Drivers  Education  Fund,
unless  the  additional penalty is subject to disbursement by
the circuit clerk under Section 27.5 of the Clerks of  Courts
Act.   Such additional amounts shall be assessed by the court
and shall be collected by the Clerk of the Circuit  Court  in
addition  to the fine and costs in the case.  Such additional
penalty shall not be  considered  a  part  of  the  fine  for
purposes  of  any  reduction made in the fine for time served
either before or after sentencing.  Not later than March 1 of
each year the Clerk of the Circuit Court shall submit to  the
State Comptroller a report of the amount of funds remitted by
him  to  the  State  Treasurer  under this Section during the
preceding calendar year.  Except  as  otherwise  provided  by
Supreme  Court  Rules,  if  a court in sentencing an offender
levies a gross amount for fine, costs,  fees  and  penalties,
the  amount  of  the  additional  penalty provided for herein
shall be computed on the  amount  remaining  after  deducting
from  the  gross amount levied all fees of the Circuit Clerk,
the State's Attorney and the Sheriff.  After  deducting  from
the  gross  amount  levied  the  fees  and additional penalty
provided for herein,  less  any  other  additional  penalties
provided  by  law,  the  clerk  shall  remit  the net balance
remaining to the entity authorized by law to receive the fine
imposed in the case.  For purposes of this Section  "fees  of
the  Circuit  Clerk"  shall  include,  if applicable, the fee
provided for under Section 27.3a of the Clerks of Courts  Act
and  the  fee,  if applicable, payable to the county in which
the violation occurred pursuant  to  Section  5-1101  of  the
Counties Code.
   When   bail   is  forfeited  for  failure  to  appear  in
connection with an offense reportable  to  the  Secretary  of
State under subdivision (a) (2) of Section 6-204 of this Act,
and  no  fine  is  imposed  ex  parte,  $4  of every $40 cash
deposit, or fraction  thereof,  given  to  secure  appearance
shall  be remitted within one month to the State Treasurer to
be deposited into the Drivers Education Fund, unless the bail
is subject to disbursement by the circuit clerk under Section
27.5 of the Clerks of Courts Act.
(Source: P.A. 86-1475; 87-670.)

   Section 99.  This Act takes effect on October 1, 2000.


Marty Couch
http://www.PPLChicago.com

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joem487

 

Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Friday, September 22 2006 09:55 PM

 

You have chosen a good stage to start, before they get older. Also as your kids get older, train them to protect your home address. My daugther told me she had to think about our street address now that she is accustomed to using the po box address. She attended the Land Trusts Made Simple  class and has set a goal to "stay out of the system". She is also reading the privacy and asset protection book. Hopefully both you and your spouse on the the same page with privacy. In some households, it is a "challenge" to do the necessary things to have some privacy.

Use your P.O. Box as much as possible. I just read tonght in  Jim & Randy's book about for school, give  you P.O. on everything except only use home address for Emergency contact only. Everything else to the P.O. Box.

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Makrita
real estate investor

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Saturday, September 23 2006 09:09 AM

 

Joe:
What book are you talking about?

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Makrita
real estate investor

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Saturday, September 23 2006 09:10 AM

 

Sorry, forgot to add this.  I spoke w/my brother-in-law, the cop, about this issue.  He had to become 'invisible' at one point in his career when he was doing some dangerous work.  He told me it is NOT illegal to put a Mail Box Etc, type address on your documents, including drivers license!  Now he is NOT a lawyer, but thought his input and experience was valuable.

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joem487

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Saturday, September 23 2006 10:39 AM

 

"Privacy and Asset Protection" by the Hughes Brothers.

Another source that may give some ideas is creditboards.com
under the credit forum. Look for posts from people trying to avoid being found.

If you can get some tips from your brother-in-law the cop about becoming invisible and post it, that would be great.
.

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Randy Hughes
Land Trust Expert-40+ years of experience

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Saturday, September 23 2006 03:48 PM

 

It is my understanding that you can only use a p.o. box address for your drivers license if you live in a town of less that 5,000 people. Therefore, you should use the street address of the Post Office and your p.o. box # like an appartment number. Or, you can use your office (if you have one) street address as plan B.

I realize that with small children privacy can be difficult. However, if you teach them our concepts at a young age, it will be easier than teaching them at an older age. For the older kids or an uncooperative spouse, explain that if they "talk" too much about family assets, etc. the family is at risk of losing everthing to a deadbeat and his lawyer. If this happens there will be nothing to inherit upon your demise! Nothing like a "personal incentive" to motivate someone's interest in privacy!


p.s. You can purchase our Privacy and Asset Protection book here on our website at "Shop Online" on the home page.

Randy Hughes
866-696-7347

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joem487

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Tuesday, September 26 2006 02:50 AM

 

Jim and Randy, Your Privacy and Asset protection book is great.
My daughter has been taking it to school to read during Her
Free time and I read it on evenings and weekends.

I called the High School to inquire about having a mailing address and emegergency contact address. They said they have only one address, my P.O. Box could be added as an additional, so mail would be sent to two places (not solving my issue).  So I asked what if we did move this year, the school official said they would need a copy of new lease or mortgage to verify residence. (since I would not yet have a gas bill. NOTE for other parents:  My gas bill is billed to my P.O. Box and shows the service address, this was acceptable for registration )Then they would update address and bus information. I see the bus issue
being a problem.  Do you have any suggestions?

Another issue is birthdates, I found some of ours in those search companies.
Do you know what sources are used to collect the information?

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Randy Hughes
Land Trust Expert-40+ years of experience

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Tuesday, September 26 2006 09:48 AM

 

Joe,

I understood everything you said except regarding the bus issue. Do you mean that because the bus needs to know where you live to stop there (to pick up your daughter), that the school therefore has your street address?

Also, regarding birthdates. They are collected a number of different ways (i.e. when you fill out questionaires, rebate forms, warranty cards, etc.). 99% of the time when they ask for your birthdate IT IS NOT REQUIRED! Therefore, either leave it blank or accidently make a mistake in the date.


Randy Hughes
866-696-7347

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joem487

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Tuesday, September 26 2006 10:17 AM

 

It sounded like part of their reasoning for the street address is for the bus pickup.

My new plan to fix the birthdate issue was to accidentally give out the wrong dates, so I needed to know some places to do so.
.

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Randy Hughes
Land Trust Expert-40+ years of experience

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Tuesday, September 26 2006 12:37 PM

 

Joe,

Good idea. Just be consistent in disseminating misinformation so you remember what you did and where you did it.


Randy Hughes
866-696-7347

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jamendan
investor

 

Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Wednesday, November 22 2006 09:23 AM

 

I don't know much about this, so can you back up a bit?

Are we supposed to have 2 PO boxes, personal and business. Should one be at our post office and one at a mailboxes etc. -type place. For either of these, should we avoid using post office or mailboxes etc in the town where we live?    

Just pretend I know nothing and that will help.  

jamendan

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Randy Hughes
Land Trust Expert-40+ years of experience

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Wednesday, November 22 2006 11:12 AM

 

Makrita,

You might consider purchasing our Privacy and Asset Protection Book online at this website. It covers all of this information in detail. Just go to the "Shop Online" link on the left side bar of the home page.


Randy Hughes
866-696-7347

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LouG

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Wednesday, November 22 2006 11:26 AM

 

The book is Great. I haven't finished it all yet, it is a must read.
I heard that there was a 15 year old girl at some of the classes and she read the whole book.

The Hughes Brothers are planning a class next year on privacy and asset protection.

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Randy Hughes
Land Trust Expert-40+ years of experience

 

Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Privacy w/Addresses

Wednesday, November 22 2006 01:19 PM

 

Lou,

Yes, we will be teaching a VERY unique class on Privacy and Asset Protection on Nov. 17th, 2007. You will be able to register for it soon on our website at "shop online."


ps. yes, there is a 15 year old girl who has attended most of our classes and she has read the entire Privacy & Asset Protection book!




Randy Hughes
866-696-7347

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